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do we need a focusable definition #1936

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jnurthen opened this issue May 15, 2023 · 6 comments · May be fixed by #2066
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do we need a focusable definition #1936

jnurthen opened this issue May 15, 2023 · 6 comments · May be fixed by #2066
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jnurthen commented May 15, 2023

Followup from editors call: do we need a focusable definition

Defined(ish) in HTML and SVG - should we point to those definitions and how?

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@pkra pkra added this to the ARIA 1.3 milestone Jun 28, 2023
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HTML gives a detailed but somewhat complex description of the focusable area. Furthermore there are some differences between browsers, in which situation is an element / area focusable and with wich method:

  • script-focusable
  • mouse-focusable
  • tabbable (keyboard focusable) or
  • touch focusable.
    I trink I will propose a very short explanation text with a link reference to the HTML spec focusable description.

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Current PR doesn't include a lot of the items discussed as necessary in the original PR attempt: w3c/aria-common#39

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FWIW, I'm not sure I agree that an ARIA definition of "focusable" counts as "editorial."

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stes-acc commented Nov 3, 2023

Android even adds up the term screenreader-focusable ;):

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/android.views.view.screenreaderfocusable?view=xamarin-android-sdk-13

Well they mean the reading "focus" of Talkback, but annother example how widespread the term is used.

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@cookiecrook writes in the comments to the old PR from 2020:

Clarifying: rather than making a new copy of the focusable definition in the ARIA spec, I think the ARIA definition should link
to the HTML definition. I think that's what you intended, but I wanted to be clear.

Of course I studied all previous comments and I thought, we have only to informativly describe the concept of "focusable" and it would be enough to link to the colex and - I think - complete definition of "focusable" in the HTL spec. Why should we go into details in our glossary?

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